Post by kiora on Aug 3, 2010 12:17:54 GMT -5
What's the first (in real life) mention of them?
I got into a back and forth with a guy on the SWTOR forums a while back who had this to say:
Is any of this stuff true at all? I wasn't around for peach-tree's "birth", but I did add some thoughts later in its life. I wasn't aware this stuff existed before SWG at all.
My understanding is either someone took cues from what was developed there and tried to make it into an "uberist" fantasy or he's just making things up to discredit it (he's about the most rabid canon nazi I've ever seen).
I got into a back and forth with a guy on the SWTOR forums a while back who had this to say:
Originally they came about because of a website called peach-tree.org, they existed long before SWG's iteration of it. They were created as part of an attempt to have them added to the "Living Force" campaign of the D20 Star Wars game. (Peach-tree.org no longer exists to my knowledge, this was a big deal while back when people tried to add them to the Wookieepedia believing that they were truly a canon organization.)
Initially the idea was that they were a Twi'lek religious group that dealt with the idea of a matriarchal deity, a mother-goddess. Then it was worked in that it was headed by a group of Force Users.
The idea then blossomed even further (which is what got them rejected from the Living Force campaign) ((For those of you who don't know what that is the Living Force was a giant meta-campaign that ran huge storylines where events crossed with each other that was endorsed by WotC and the RPGA)) and then the history had to be expanded. Their unique game mechanic (justified at the time by the racial requirement) was that certain Force Skills in the D20 Star Wars RPG would not automatically grant the user a Dark Side point, among these were Force Lightning.
Because of all of this (and the popularity of Twi'lek dancing girls as characters due to excessive amounts of fan-lust) this group became extremely popular (even though it wasn't official) and was played a lot, drawing in also lots of power gamers (due to the Force power leeway, in the Living Force campaign players were not allowed to accumulate Dark Side points so it was one of the only ways to actually use those powers) and finally to close out their history they were purged during the Jedi Purge due to Palpatine fearing their power.
The only reason I know all of this was I was big into the RPGA and the Living Force campaign when it all came up.
Initially the idea was that they were a Twi'lek religious group that dealt with the idea of a matriarchal deity, a mother-goddess. Then it was worked in that it was headed by a group of Force Users.
The idea then blossomed even further (which is what got them rejected from the Living Force campaign) ((For those of you who don't know what that is the Living Force was a giant meta-campaign that ran huge storylines where events crossed with each other that was endorsed by WotC and the RPGA)) and then the history had to be expanded. Their unique game mechanic (justified at the time by the racial requirement) was that certain Force Skills in the D20 Star Wars RPG would not automatically grant the user a Dark Side point, among these were Force Lightning.
Because of all of this (and the popularity of Twi'lek dancing girls as characters due to excessive amounts of fan-lust) this group became extremely popular (even though it wasn't official) and was played a lot, drawing in also lots of power gamers (due to the Force power leeway, in the Living Force campaign players were not allowed to accumulate Dark Side points so it was one of the only ways to actually use those powers) and finally to close out their history they were purged during the Jedi Purge due to Palpatine fearing their power.
The only reason I know all of this was I was big into the RPGA and the Living Force campaign when it all came up.
Is any of this stuff true at all? I wasn't around for peach-tree's "birth", but I did add some thoughts later in its life. I wasn't aware this stuff existed before SWG at all.
My understanding is either someone took cues from what was developed there and tried to make it into an "uberist" fantasy or he's just making things up to discredit it (he's about the most rabid canon nazi I've ever seen).